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ALEXTREBEK
10/17/2008, 07:01 PM
OUTDATED AS OF SOME PATCH BETWEEN LIKE OCTOBER AND NOW

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LmdZhZMItrMczidIzsGo

arms
4/5 Imp. Parry - the 5th point is needed for warbringer


2/2 Imp. Rend - Rend is upwards of 2,200 threat (like 183% the threat of devastate) for a geared 70 warrior. rend is now a part of your rotation and takes precedent over devastate, grats.


1/2 imp. charge - 2/2 would doubtlessly be beneficial, but increasing charge from 15 --> 20 rage opens up an instant shield slam upon charging ur shit; if you wanted, you could probably swap a point from imp. parry into here, although, except in a few, rare cases, you'd likely benefit more from the extra 1% avoidance.

fury
3/3 armored to the teeth = like upwards of 300 ap for geared 70 warrior


prot
2/5 shield specc. (kind of decent filler talent, moreso than imp. bloodrage, especially with all the new changes)

3/3 imp. tc


3/3 incite - def. worth it, maybe would be iffy it were just hs, but with tc in there, it's a default.

5/5 anticipation - 5% less dmg taken, blablabla


1/1 LS - default

2/2 imp. revenge - revenge should still be a staple in ur rotation, more threat then dev + chance to procc s&b, and, the stun is also a nice utility; plus, the alternatives are shittier anyways

2/2 shield mastery - default


2/2 imp. sr - fairly sure its worth having 2 points in this, tho idk since i dont know the range/full extent of this talent yet.

3/3 puncture - you'll be using devastate less, suffice to say however, it's still worth getting these talents over the alternatives


1/1 cb - default

2/2 gag order - default


5/5 1h specc - default


2/2 imp. d-stance - default

1/1 vigilance - default

3/3 focused rage - default


3/3 vitality - default


1/1 warbringer - amazing utility, eliminates need for tm. if you dont know how to do the following yet, it's time to learn.

first, you need to get yourself a lovely little [target=mouseover] intervene macro.

every time you get low on rage/threat, intervene your broox and in the quick turn-of-a-mouse: charge back to your target, rage problem solved + you avoided a hit by outranging your target, and yes, this does work on bosses.

warriors were able to avoid hits by intervening --> stance/dance --> intercepting targets in the past, but warbringer makes this so much better.

1/1 devastate - blabla

3/3 critical block - default


3/3 snb - default

2/2 dmg shield - default


1/1 shockwave - default

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If you have any legitimate suggestions/whatever, I will try to respond to them when i can, although i really do not check these (or any other forums) as often as i used to.

If you plan to whine about how i allocated 0 points to improved toughness, you're more than welcome to, but unless your character's really gaining more than like 3 or 4% damage reduction from the talent, your complaints rest on false ground. trust me.

Murr0w
10/18/2008, 05:40 PM
Got anything in mind for the next 10 points?

trollnforumsyep
10/18/2008, 08:16 PM
Alex, word on the street is you are not good at this game c/d?

ALEXTREBEK
10/19/2008, 11:12 AM
10 Points:

-You'll want to put them back into Toughness until you only get about 2 or 3% extra DR from 5/5. If you're only getting like .75% DR per point in toughness, I'd still recommend taking out a point from Toughness to further what you'll be doing in the arms tree.

-if you feel that you could use more threat at a fairly minimal loss of defensive aptitude, then you'll want to get 5/5 deflection, 2/3 imp. hs, and 2/2 impale, while maintaining 5/5 toughness until you're able to flesh out cruelty.

-Depending on whether or not you need more defensive capability than threat, you'll probably see a higher benefit from putting 2/5 cruelty and 2/5 imp. demo, instead of going deeper into the arms tree.

-Also, I'm not really sure how useful Safeguard (basically imp. intervene will be), if you find that it's able to save other tank's lives on a consistent basis, it is without a doubt worth dropping points on.

I don't ever plan to hit level 80 (which brings me to my next comment), but if I did, I would first specc. one of the following at 80:

Threat+: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Lid00bZhZMItrgczidIzsGo
Def+: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVdZhrZMItrgczidIzsGo

Later I'd probably do:

Threat+: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Lid00bZhxZMItrMczidIzsGo
Def+: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVdZhe0oZMItrMczidIzsGo

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And I don't play WoW anymore, so yes, I'm without a doubt terrible at it.

Farewell
10/21/2008, 12:33 AM
he's a veritable tanking god