Druid spec

[livewire]

What do you think about this for a pve feral spec?
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140050010000000505252132322205100000 0000000000

[Delemos]

Only change I would suggest is Furor instead of Feral Instinct. You do not need improved prowl for PvE and the Defiance for Druids is if you are primary tanking which I hope you are not as I see relentless running around with enough warriors!

[Galad]

I'm a fan of http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?5143553212551351000000000000000000000 0000000000

bte nice sig aga.

[Psyk]

Thinking of going this build for Moonkin
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0143501002501350000000000000000050510 3105010000

but I don't know if I should drop stuff for either imp wrath or imp starfire ><

[styloss]

Do you have a link to a gear profile?

[dynewolf]

Only change I would suggest is Furor instead of Feral Instinct. You do not need improved prowl for PvE and the Defiance for Druids is if you are primary tanking which I hope you are not as I see relentless running around with enough warriors!

^agree with this dude...:)

To Live:

PVE Feral? in what regard? cat scratches or bear swipes? i love tanking on my alt in 5-10 mans, but aside from off-tanking or cat dps on MT targets i don't see as much viability for druid melee dps in end-game (granted i haven't seen past broodlord)

feral-instinct is not really needed with 10second taunts. for non-tauntable targets, i would imagine strategy would over-ride the need for extra hate (establishing aggro, mob stabilisation, etc)

5 points in furor is a must for my feral alt (and i often miss it on my PVE main).

here's the tweak i would have done to your original link: Dyne's Feral (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140050012000000503250130322205104000 0000000000)

you could perhaps replace nature's grasp for improved shred if you liked being in cat form alot. i personally shift alot, and like to keep reserve mana if possible

2cents

[MoonStar]

I am going to give this thread a big...

?:(

[dynewolf]

how now brown cow?

if its the ole healer vs dps shpeel, don't be so cruel:(. my main stays 12-0-39, but my alt60druid likes to cat scratch whenever possible.

[Sploitz]

what you have all been waiting for:


http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?5143253312050300000000000000000050450 0000000000

[dynewolf]

what you have all been waiting for:


http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?5143253312050300000000000000000050450 0000000000

i used a version of that build in learning Vael. (Nature's grace & Moonglow / NS) more specifically. since my role in every encounter i've done on my main involves being a main healer in one regard another, i am quite content with mine:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0142003002000000000000000000000050550 3125315031\

critiques/advice welcome

[Delemos]

what you have all been waiting for:


http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?5143253312050300000000000000000050450 0000000000

Why would you spec anything like that sober is beyond me.

[Sploitz]

now now dont be jealous of my EMAZING spec

[dynewolf]

this thread delivers, lol

[Delemos]

now now dont be jealous of my EMAZING spec

EMAZING as in how EMAZINGLY stupid you are sure

[bunshichi]

gotta agree with agamos here sploitz has a nublar build hahaha..

furor over imp motw for insta bash

lose ooc, natural shifter, imp thorns, 1 in natures reach
and max out vengeance and imp moonfire, with 1 in natures reach imotbhfyi

gotta have the lolcritmoonfiremachinegun and big starfire crits if ur gonna go balance!

[dynewolf]

ahh what the hell. these are my cat's meow builds (puuuun dun dun dun)


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Restored (my most used build for PVE. current build but a slave to instances and AV)
12-0-39 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0142003002000000000000000000000050550 3135315021)
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Feralvated (as much feral as i could squeeze with the remaining 20 points)
1-19-31 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0100000000000000500232130021000005550 0105315001)
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Survivalist (jack of all trades, master of none. NS, OoC, FC)
16-14-21 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140053012000000500232110000000055520 0000310000)
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Full Feral (what you specc when you only have to heal yourself)
14-32-5 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140053010000000500242130322205105000 0000000000)
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Balanced
34-0-17 (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0143502002551351000000000000000050050 3100000000)
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[Sploitz]

my real spec

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140503002501300000000000000000050510 3105015010

[dynewolf]

my real spec

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140503002501300000000000000000050510 3105015010

there will come a day when our priests no longer need innervate. until them i am trapped.

i usually just innervate the tank at the end of a fight so it doesn't go to waste, meh

[bunshichi]

best spec evar
1/13/37

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0100000000000000500232100000000005530 3105315051

[Silas]

14/32/5 best dps spec out there pve and pvp.

If you want to dps you absolutly have to have furor. chainshifting turnign mana into energy is nuts. Plus you dont need more then 32 points in feral to dps if you want to tank you only need 34-35 points in feral other then that theres no need for that much. Max your ap and crit and go nuts OoC is a huge part of your damage aswell its kinda like sword spec for a druid heh

[dynewolf]

14/32/5 best dps spec out there pve and pvp.


my alt rocks the 14/32/5, 8.5k armor 960AP, and i never get tired of playing it. but as a healer in end-game, do you know any true feral druids who can hold their own with an equally geared resto?

i have yet to meet one:/

[Delemos]

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/index.php?showtopic=6015&st=0

The above link is about feral/hybrid/resto druids. I highly recommend it as its probably the best discussion on feral/hybrid druid setups. Personally, I would never mind a HOTW specced druid for the versatility but you won't see such a 14/32/5 in my raids unless in extreme circumstances.

HOTW specced druids can hold their own as I did when I was 0/30/21 for 3 weeks and still was almost as good as my spec now. Only thing you miss is Gift of Nature which prevents you from being able to apply any Rejuvs as Resto specced druids will always overwrite yours which can be frustrating in group heals but is still very doable. Gear/Player still play the biggest roles.

[dynewolf]

yeah aga,

when i was 0/30/21 a while back, i got the job done in raids, and it actually made me a better healer due to the nature of the build, but ultimately not having GoF, and ImpRejuv proved to be the major deterrance. In PVE encounters, i feel druids bring more to the table from the resto tree. i love tanking/dpsing 5-20mans on my alt, but with any encounter that pushes thresholds on ability, nothing beats a druid that is specced to heal and enjoys it

[dynewolf]

edit: read that thread, and good arguments overall, but i stand by my original opinion. in regards to bearform. all the armor in the world does not account for the inherent damage mitigation that warriors have. the way i look at it, bring balance/feral druids to fights where their versatility is viable, and don't bring them when that versatility is more of a hindrance to the strat. some fights you need clear defined roles.

[Trap09]

Feral

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?0140053010000000500240132321215105000 0000000000

Balance

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html?5120500002521250000000000000000050510 3120310000

[Deluxe]

I'm 1/11/39...


I hate argueing about specs!

[dynewolf]

12/0/39

i like a healthy discussion, but not an argument.

Deluxe you live in McLean?

<---Burke, Va

[Klean]

You all should go Moonkin imo!

[Rez]

Yeah I'm 1/11/39 (4/5 NF)