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Rel
04/15/2005, 10:43 AM
Here's how I roll:

Assasination: 31

Imp Eviscerate: 3/3
Remorseless Attacks: 2/2
Malice: 5/5
Lethality: 5/5
Murder: 2/2
Ruthlessness: 3/3
Relentless Strikes: 1/1
Cold Blood: 1/1
Imp Kidney Shot: 3/3
Seal Fate: 5/5
Vigor: 1/1

Combat: 8

Imp Gouge: 3/3
Lightning Reflexes: 2/5
Imp Backstab: 3/3

Subtlety

Master of Deception: 5/5
Oppurtunity: 5/5
Imp Ambush: 2/3

In the new patch attack power will correctly modify ambush and backstab. Lethality will still effect backstab but NOT ambush. What does this mean?

Backstab: will be hitting for about 300+ more than it currently is, so for me about 1200-1300 average.

Ambush: Even though lethality will no longer effect ambush, having attack power correctly modify the damage will still INCREASE the damage of ambush. Instead of ambushing for 1400 or so I'd be ambushing for about 1500 maybe. If lethality worked I'd be at about 1900-2000 ish.

With all that said I'm probably going to keep the same spec (mainly for money reasons). I'm thinking about dropping improved ambush and getting 2 more points in lightning reflexes, we'll see. Other than that, I think you'll find this build quite powerful.

Another good build would be 21/20/10 with Riposte (Lloyd's build).

Overall both dagger and sword rogues (lethality + ap will now correctly modify sinister strikes damage) are getting a nice damage boost. The PvP trinket and being able to vanish out of sheep and fear, along with the diminishing returns on cold spells and fear, basically mean rogues own casters. Arms/Fury warriors (shawn/shitty) will still beat rogues constitently, especially with some of the newer weapons.

Basically look for rogues to come at your cloth like a pterrodactyl for easy honorable kills and vanish like little babies when an offensive warrior comes by...or have 2 rogues gank anyones face :).

Chris
04/15/2005, 10:47 AM
Rel, would you mind posting a good PvE Sword Rogue build? I'm trying to have a character that makes gold faster than my priest does, and would love some extra insight into a farming rogue build.

Rel
04/15/2005, 01:09 PM
Sure, here's my old sword build:

Assassination: 18

Imp Evis: 3/3
Malice: 5/5
Lethality: 5/5
Murder: 2/2
Imp Slice and Dice: 3/3

Combat: 33

Imp Gouge: 3/3
Imp Sinister Strike: 2/2
Lightning Reflexes: 5/5
Deflection: 5/5
Precision: 5/5
Riposte: 1/1
Imp Evasion: 2/2
Dual Wield Special: 5/5
Blade Fury: 1/1
Agression: 3/3
Adrenaline Rush: 1/1

This build centralizes around massive attack power and a very slow, high base damage sword...the more attack power the better (I'm at like 750 or so w/ swords now). Go to the orcs, cheapshot, mash SS butan, evis, win. Got 2 at once? No problem, evasion, bladefury, mash ss/evis/slice and dice, win. Got 3+ at once? No problem, evasion, bladefury, adrenaline rush, ss/evis/slice and dice. You'll be amazed at how fast you mow down mobs, you can kill 3 or so at once taking almost no damage :).

The other good thing about rogues and this build is you basically never have to stop to heal...just the ocasional bandaid. Also, you don't have to be behind the target to do massive damage. Just push butan and win! yay!

Hellboar
04/15/2005, 01:47 PM
imp slice and dice is the best talent evar

Chris
04/15/2005, 05:58 PM
Ok well that settles it, Rel + The Prince of Thieves recommend it, so shall it be.

ReiGnZ
04/21/2005, 05:21 PM
lloyd can u post ur build, im making a rogue on diff server and wanted to see some diff builds for 60 =\

Blackened
04/21/2005, 07:10 PM
it's thives melisa, thives... =]

Chris
04/22/2005, 08:57 AM
OH~! My mistake, thanks for pointing that out.

Lenny
05/16/2005, 01:43 AM
Melisa may I make a suggestion?

Buy the last rank of your priest's resurrection spell.

thanks

Blackened
05/16/2005, 01:57 AM
Melisa may I make a suggestion?

Buy the last rank of your priest's resurrection spell.

thanks

owned solid.

Exedore
05/16/2005, 03:46 PM
Melisa may I make a suggestion?

Buy the last rank of your priest's resurrection spell.
I thought that was Cherrie?