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Old 10/10/2007   #121
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Mace Spec / Prep = Raid spec
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Old 10/10/2007   #122
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Figured I'd post in the most relevant, up-to-date thread I could, so here it goes.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...tree&n=Desense

In the past, I've never quite had any trouble being #1 on meters. My basic rotation( garrote/ambush, snd, 5 cp's, snd, then 5cp rupture as finisher) with subsequent burning of cooldown's has been more than enough to keep me on top. Lately though, a certain warlock in my guild (with about 1200 shadow damage, destruction spec) has been working me over on more than one occasion.

The most recent example was on our offday karazhan run, when we did Nightbane. I took a look at the meters in the first minute, and thought " I'm about 10k ahead, no need to worry." Being a paranoid, dps meter freak that I am, I checked again after the 2nd phase and found that this warlock had passed me up by over 40k. Now I had been burning haste pots (because I have a huge supply) and every cooldown I had, within my normal rotation and this kid was still stomping me. Granted, there is the aoe section, but I really don't see how I'm so far behind, even with lack of crits.

Any advisors are welcome to check my armory, which is posted above this wall of text, and tell me what might be wrong with my gear..or possibly just something I'm missing altogether.

Thanks for any input.

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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

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I say Lightning Reflexes for dodge over parry, because if they didn't fix it, on some strait tank and spank boss fights a parry will reset the bosses attack CD and make it look like the tank just got one shot, when it was two attacks one after another. Known issue with Gruul.

Just so you know, this occurs when the boss parries your attacks, not when you parry its attacks.
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

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Figured I'd post in the most relevant, up-to-date thread I could, so here it goes.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...tree&n=Desense

In the past, I've never quite had any trouble being #1 on meters. My basic rotation( garrote/ambush, snd, 5 cp's, snd, then 5cp rupture as finisher) with subsequent burning of cooldown's has been more than enough to keep me on top. Lately though, a certain warlock in my guild (with about 1200 shadow damage, destruction spec) has been working me over on more than one occasion.

The most recent example was on our offday karazhan run, when we did Nightbane. I took a look at the meters in the first minute, and thought " I'm about 10k ahead, no need to worry." Being a paranoid, dps meter freak that I am, I checked again after the 2nd phase and found that this warlock had passed me up by over 40k. Now I had been burning haste pots (because I have a huge supply) and every cooldown I had, within my normal rotation and this kid was still stomping me. Granted, there is the aoe section, but I really don't see how I'm so far behind, even with lack of crits.

Any advisors are welcome to check my armory, which is posted above this wall of text, and tell me what might be wrong with my gear..or possibly just something I'm missing altogether.

Thanks for any input.

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Might want to look over your socketing, hit is more important than other stats, and if you are interested in PvE damage you should really never socket stamina except for the meta activation. That being said, its likely you are outgeared, hard to say without seeing his armory.
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Old 10/10/2007   #125
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Yes, my only 2 blue sockets are for the meta-gem activation.

As for the warlocks armory, if you'd really like to see a gear comparison:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...tree&n=Xerxess

We really just go back and forth in terms of who's #1 on dps. It just troubles me with all the heresay about rogues pve damage being far and above that of anything a warlock can put out. I can't cite specific examples of people saying this, but I see it as a rule of thumb to be #1 as a rogue on certain fights.
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If you look at hte pics goretox put in the picture thread; The illidan blades guy with super haste was still second to a warlock. Their dps is stupid also.
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

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Just so you know, this occurs when the boss parries your attacks, not when you parry its attacks.
Haha... your right, Im going to go with Goretex's excuse, It was late here.


I know I know.. that was lame >.>
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

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If you look at hte pics goretox put in the picture thread; The illidan blades guy with super haste was still second to a warlock. Their dps is stupid also.
probably because said rogue fuckin sucks
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Lambach you do realize a warlock + aoe is like the best dps on hyjal trash waves right? Too bad rogues can't attack 10 targets at once :*(


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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Hey...hey...its not my fault you cant play your class. Blackened wouldnt let a lock beat him.
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

id have to say the best part about playing a rogue is shitting on a warlock. i only went after fucking gay ass warlocks when i played on edras rogue
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Re: lvl 70 rogue builds

Also fun shitting on dps warriors with all cooldowns up.


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